I think that Fitzgerald depicts women as gossipy, obnoxious, rude and loud. They are always either talking or buying something. They also really let loose on what they say. Except for Jordan Baker. She seems levelheaded enough, even though she is a very dishonest person. Overall, they women are depicted cruelly. I can't really say about fairness because he lived in the twenties and maybe this is actually how women were so he may be being fair to them. But in this day and age, I would say that he isn't being fair to them.
I think Fitzgerald depicts the women in Gasby as loose... too loose for the time period. The women aren't polite and don't obey the men in the story. They don't run their life to benefit anyone but themselves and they like it that way. They thrive on what makes them happy. Although this kind of freethinking women is expected these days, at the time it was just still regarded as inappropriate because this kind of modern lifestyle was still being slowly integrated with the previous, more conservative views. I think that Fitzgerald used his portrayal of women as a way to illustrate the time period. Sadly these freethinking women are depicted cruelly because not all aspects that are shown about them are positive. Women are also shown to be extremely gossipy and seem to be a satire for the oblivious, materialistic upper class.
Okay dawgs, here I go. I see Fitzgerald's women in The Great Gatsby as being an exaggerated version of how women were in the roaring 20's. Women had just gotten the right to vote and they were finally stepping out of the restrictions that had made them so subservient earlier in history. Women were reaching equality with men and Fitzgerald represents this change in the novel by exaggerating it and showing women with a sense of rebelliousness.
Do you think that sense of equality is exaggerated? What if it's just their behavior or mannerisms? Is he indicting women or the society they're a part of? Aren't most of the men just as bad?
I think that the men are worse. Especially Tom. They flagrently cheat on there wives and then expecte there wives to be faithfull. This seems to be a over reaction on the part of men to a new found sense of equality of women that was crushed in the 50's. When the obedient house wife that stayes home and makes dinner, became the norm for women. Women have gained more independence in recent years but still these attitudes of hyporcracy on the men's parts persiste. Women's depiction as winney spoiled brats in the book are also used to depict them as unhappily marred. Jordan, a sigle is very happy and her mood douse not change when she is with Nick. Daisy, is reble around Tom but not around Gatsby who she loves.
Fitzgerald depicts women rather cruelly; they are always gossiping, always partying, never working, and they 'attack' in groups. From what we see, women do not do much work at all and ruin people's reputation. They are careless as well, as Daisy does not care that Tom is having an affair - something that someone in the scarlet letter was severely punished for. Of course, I argue that Fitzgerald is indeed not portraying them in a discriminating manner, as this sort of behavior was probably exhibited by some (not all) women at the time. When one combines a large influx of wealth with the 'celebration' of women's suffrage, it is understandable that females would be living the 'high life.' To conclude this blurb, Fitzgerald depicts women as possessing insincere qualities, however he is not being too unrealistic in his descriptions.
I think Fitzgerald depicts women as foolish and self absorbed. Whatever suits or benefits the women more they will do. They seem to have little respect for their husbands. The women are very engrossed in material things which makes them superficial as well. I think Fitzgerald is exaggerating wealthy women in the 20's to make a point. Women as well as men are careless with others feeling and lives. I think that women are particularly depicted cruelly in the novel. however i don't think the author thinks he is depicting them cruelly, he thinks he is depicting them accurately.
Fitzgerald depicts women as being selfish liars. however, the idea that Fitzgerald is depicting all women is unfair. He is only showing upper-middle-class to upper-class women, which is a small percentage of woman. The this small portion of women, he is fair. They are an accurate representation of the times. He is not, however, fair to the rest of America's women. His views of women as a whole being this way degrade the lower and lower-middle-class women.
Fitzgerald depicts women as selfish and rude people who don't seem to have respect for anybody else but themselves. They disregard the feelings of others and all they really care about is the latest gossip and how they look. Seeing as that I wasn't alive in the twenties, I don't know if women truly were like this or not. It seems like the women in the upper class definitely had an arrogant and ignorant air about them, but I am not positive if this is true. I do think, though, that Fitzgerald was depicting the women cruelly and poking fun at the women out there who only care about gossip and looks. I would have to agree with Pique, where she said that in this day and age he isn't being fair. But back then, it probably was seen as very fair.
fitzgerald depicts women of the upper class in a very stereotypical manner. they are gossipy, rude and disrespectful. This is not necessarily unfair because for all i know that may have been the overall attitude of women in that time. I would argue that yes they are depicted cruelly even if that is how upperclass women acted in that time period because the way they are depicted is undesireable to anyone
The Women in 'Gatsby' are very free and equal to men in scandalocity. Being incredibly wealthy, in my opinion, has diminished their sense and respect for values, not only of objects, but of relationships and people as well. Fitzgerald seems to point a finger at the women in the book more then the men. Considerably, this 'sexism' could be a product of the era, and the new-found suffrage of women, therefore, simply setting them similar to men in behaviour. In a sense, Fitzgerald is not being sexist but fair in judgement to both sexes.
I think that Fitzgerald depicts women as gossipy, obnoxious, rude and loud. They are always either talking or buying something. They also really let loose on what they say. Except for Jordan Baker. She seems levelheaded enough, even though she is a very dishonest person. Overall, they women are depicted cruelly. I can't really say about fairness because he lived in the twenties and maybe this is actually how women were so he may be being fair to them. But in this day and age, I would say that he isn't being fair to them.
ReplyDeleteI think Fitzgerald depicts the women in Gasby as loose... too loose for the time period. The women aren't polite and don't obey the men in the story. They don't run their life to benefit anyone but themselves and they like it that way. They thrive on what makes them happy. Although this kind of freethinking women is expected these days, at the time it was just still regarded as inappropriate because this kind of modern lifestyle was still being slowly integrated with the previous, more conservative views. I think that Fitzgerald used his portrayal of women as a way to illustrate the time period. Sadly these freethinking women are depicted cruelly because not all aspects that are shown about them are positive. Women are also shown to be extremely gossipy and seem to be a satire for the oblivious, materialistic upper class.
ReplyDeleteEmily,
ReplyDeleteAre these women supposed to obey men? Were they still expected to be silent housewives? Justify that particular comment.
Pique,
ReplyDeleteWhy is Jordan the exception? Does she serve a purpose in the narrative? What about her association with "the undergraduate"?
Okay dawgs, here I go.
ReplyDeleteI see Fitzgerald's women in The Great Gatsby as being an exaggerated version of how women were in the roaring 20's. Women had just gotten the right to vote and they were finally stepping out of the restrictions that had made them so subservient earlier in history. Women were reaching equality with men and Fitzgerald represents this change in the novel by exaggerating it and showing women with a sense of rebelliousness.
Do you think that sense of equality is exaggerated? What if it's just their behavior or mannerisms? Is he indicting women or the society they're a part of? Aren't most of the men just as bad?
ReplyDeleteI think that the men are worse. Especially Tom. They flagrently cheat on there wives and then expecte there wives to be faithfull. This seems to be a over reaction on the part of men to a new found sense of equality of women that was crushed in the 50's. When the obedient house wife that stayes home and makes dinner, became the norm for women. Women have gained more independence in recent years but still these attitudes of hyporcracy on the men's parts persiste. Women's depiction as winney spoiled brats in the book are also used to depict them as unhappily marred. Jordan, a sigle is very happy and her mood douse not change when she is with Nick. Daisy, is reble around Tom but not around Gatsby who she loves.
ReplyDeleteFitzgerald depicts women rather cruelly; they are always gossiping, always partying, never working, and they 'attack' in groups. From what we see, women do not do much work at all and ruin people's reputation. They are careless as well, as Daisy does not care that Tom is having an affair - something that someone in the scarlet letter was severely punished for. Of course, I argue that Fitzgerald is indeed not portraying them in a discriminating manner, as this sort of behavior was probably exhibited by some (not all) women at the time. When one combines a large influx of wealth with the 'celebration' of women's suffrage, it is understandable that females would be living the 'high life.' To conclude this blurb, Fitzgerald depicts women as possessing insincere qualities, however he is not being too unrealistic in his descriptions.
ReplyDeleteI think Fitzgerald depicts women as foolish and self absorbed. Whatever suits or benefits the women more they will do. They seem to have little respect for their husbands. The women are very engrossed in material things which makes them superficial as well. I think Fitzgerald is exaggerating wealthy women in the 20's to make a point. Women as well as men are careless with others feeling and lives. I think that women are particularly depicted cruelly in the novel. however i don't think the author thinks he is depicting them cruelly, he thinks he is depicting them accurately.
ReplyDeleteFitzgerald depicts women as being selfish liars. however, the idea that Fitzgerald is depicting all women is unfair. He is only showing upper-middle-class to upper-class women, which is a small percentage of woman. The this small portion of women, he is fair. They are an accurate representation of the times. He is not, however, fair to the rest of America's women. His views of women as a whole being this way degrade the lower and lower-middle-class women.
ReplyDeleteFitzgerald depicts women as selfish and rude people who don't seem to have respect for anybody else but themselves. They disregard the feelings of others and all they really care about is the latest gossip and how they look. Seeing as that I wasn't alive in the twenties, I don't know if women truly were like this or not. It seems like the women in the upper class definitely had an arrogant and ignorant air about them, but I am not positive if this is true. I do think, though, that Fitzgerald was depicting the women cruelly and poking fun at the women out there who only care about gossip and looks. I would have to agree with Pique, where she said that in this day and age he isn't being fair. But back then, it probably was seen as very fair.
ReplyDeletefitzgerald depicts women of the upper class in a very stereotypical manner. they are gossipy, rude and disrespectful. This is not necessarily unfair because for all i know that may have been the overall attitude of women in that time. I would argue that yes they are depicted cruelly even if that is how upperclass women acted in that time period because the way they are depicted is undesireable to anyone
ReplyDeleteThe Women in 'Gatsby' are very free and equal to men in scandalocity. Being incredibly wealthy, in my opinion, has diminished their sense and respect for values, not only of objects, but of relationships and people as well. Fitzgerald seems to point a finger at the women in the book more then the men. Considerably, this 'sexism' could be a product of the era, and the new-found suffrage of women, therefore, simply setting them similar to men in behaviour. In a sense, Fitzgerald is not being sexist but fair in judgement to both sexes.
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